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Tug-of-War

Jo Marie Reilly


As I teach first- and second-year medical students to take patient histories and to perform physical examinations, I always feel humbled and privileged--energized by their compassion, enthusiasm and facile, curious minds.

Occasionally, I feel particularly challenged--especially when I'm teaching a student who, though bright, is struggling to acquire some of medicine's basic skills. As we journey up the learning curve together, my responsibilities can conflict: as a teacher, I want to nurture an aspiring student physician, yet as a physician, I must ensure that patients receive appropriate care.

Now, sitting quietly in the corner of the room and watching a young medical student interview a county hospital psychiatric patient, I begin to feel this tension.

"What brought you into the hospital?" the student queries nervously.

Small and reserved, she's quite a contrast to her patient--a burly, imposing middle-aged man, his body splattered with tattoos of birds of prey and firearms. He folds his arms tightly across his chest, and a large cross sparkles on his neck chain.

"It's when I tried to commit suicide on the bridge," he responds agitatedly.

There is a long, awkward pause. "So...what medication did you say you take?" she asks.

"I take respiridol. It's for my voices," he replies flatly.

The student clenches and unclenches her hands.

"What about drug allergies?" she asks. "Do you have any drug allergies?"

"No." He stares at her blankly.

"Alternative medical therapies?"

"No!"

She fidgets with her papers, looking through her history-and-physical book for the next question to ask this obviously disturbed man. Her eyes dart around the room's harsh, white walls, devoid of any mirrors and pictures. The stark surroundings make the interview even more intimidating.

As a seasoned clinician, I feel frustrated by the fumbling interaction unfolding before me. But as a teacher, I feel compassion for the student's discomfort with this emotionally fragile man and hope that she can find a way to connect with him. I continue observing silently.

The student locates a phrase on her mental-status sheet that seems to give her comfort.

"Your mood," she blurts. "How would you describe your mood?"

"Angry!" he shouts, picking furiously at some invisible specks of dust on his hospital gown and flicking them off with his fingers.

"Oh." She glances nervously past the bed curtain to the guard watching curiously from his doorway post.

Okay, I think. It's time for an attending-physician rescue. I stand up and walk to the bedside.

"Mr. Adams, " I say, "tell me about the bridge. You must have felt pretty desperate to want to end your life."

He looks at me, relaxing a bit. "Yeah, I jumped from that bridge, but that fisherman pulled me out. Damn well near froze in that water."

Thinking that I've jump-started the interview, I nod to the student, who's been frantically scribbling down our conversation.

"I haven't asked you yet about your past surgical history," she stammers.

He simply looks at her.

"That's quite a story," I interject. "What made you so anxious that you wanted to jump from the bridge?"

"It was those voices again. When those voices come, it's all over."

The student looks at me; I raise my eyebrows encouragingly.

"How about immunizations? Did you receive your childhood immunizations?" she asks.

"Immunizations?" He looks at her strangely and begins to tap his foot against the bed. "What are immunizations?"

"Well Mr. Adams," I say, "I actually think it'd be important to know more about those voices. Tell us about them. What do they tell you to do?"

"They tell me I'm worthless. They tell me to hurt myself." Looking distressed and ashamed, he gazes at the wall.

I pause, giving the student another opening.

"Let's see," she says, looking at her notes. "Did you ever do any military service?"

I look over at her again, trying to conceal my exasperation. Does she just not get it or what? Time to bring this painful interview to a close.

"Mr. Adams, you've been so kind to talk with us this morning. Your voices sound like they are very scary, and they cause you to do some unsafe things. How are your voices now?"

"They've quieted down since I got back on my medications," he says. "They're not telling me to kill myself anymore."

I nod. "I'm so glad that you're feeling safer now. We'll make sure the social worker gives you enough medicine so that when you leave the hospital you can keep your voices down. Can we do anything else for you today?"

"I just want to rest now. I'm pretty tired from all this talking," he answers, closing his eyes.

Out in the hallway, I turn to the medical student.

"How do you think it went?" I ask.

She glances at her notes, looking distracted. "I think it went pretty well," she says. "I got almost everything--but I did forget to ask him if he had a family history of diabetes."

I sigh inwardly. How can I give her feedback that is constructive and tactful? How much of her stumbling is due to her youthful inexperience and to the intimidating environment? With more maturity and less nervousness on her part, will her communication skills blossom?

The inevitable doubts set in. What is my role and responsibility as her teacher? How can I help her "get it"? What if, despite my best efforts, and those of my colleagues, she still cannot adequately listen and respond to patients? I dread the thought.

At such challenging moments, I think of my professional vows--the Hippocratic Oath's admonition, "Do no harm." As a teacher, I am called upon to do no harm to this hopeful, aspiring student physician. As a clinician, I must ensure that no harm be done to the patients she serves.

I must dig deeply for courage, patience and wisdom.

And so continues this tug-of-war.


About the author:

Jo Marie Reilly is Associate Professor of Family Medicine at the Keck School of Medicine of the University of Southern California (USC), where she is Director of the Professionalism and the Practice of Medicine course and Assistant Director of the Introduction to Clinical Medicine course. She is also a member of Pulse's Editorial Board. "Writing helps me connect with the power of humor, joy and compassion in the work that I do, and in doing so helps me balance my professional life, patient care and personal life, which includes spending time with my family."

Story editor:

Diane Guernsey

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Comments:
August 10, 2009
Dr. Reilly, Thank you for the lovely story and particularly for the ending, the lack of closure, the allusion to your own life long learning. I also do this work, have so for 20 years. Whatever other tricks a teacher might throw in, in the end this student is most likely to grasp the compassion and understanding you are offering her. I believe, we give what we have been given.
Posted By: Larry Dyche
 
August 9, 2009
I have worked with many student teachers; I have also interacted with college students preparing for a job interview. Before allowing my student teachers to handle a class by themselves or to engage in parent/teacher conferences and before sending my undergrads into the challenging job market, I do many role-playing activities with them. This preparatory process gives the students more confidence and allows me to provide constructive input. The medical student about whom you wrote should have had such preparation before dealing with any patient, yet alone such a mentally and emotionally fragile one.
Posted By: Ronna L. Edelstein
 
August 7, 2009
Great story. It made me feel your exasperation with your student as much as you did. I would bet your student didn't have much medical experience prior to her admission into medical school, just stellar academics. It makes me wonder how we can improve the admissions process for people who are more mature and do "get it". But that's another story.
Posted By: Sandy Brown
 
August 7, 2009
I particularily related to this article because as a master teacher working with a student teacher, I made the difficult decision not to endorse this young woman in her student teaching experience. I still wonder if I made the right decision.
Posted By: Patricia Reckrey
 
August 7, 2009
Great opportunity to coach someone new on attending to the person and not the documented process. I would love to get an email or response about your followup on how you went about coaching this person toward becoming more attuned to the person? I could feel Mr Adams relax as soon as you recognized his humanity sitting in front of you. The key is how to give specific behaviorial feedback to improve your student's future. Loved this article.
Posted By: Steve Gunther-Murphy
 
August 7, 2009
Do no harm?! How many times do you think this patient has been interviewed? What is his resistance to irrelevant and seemingly stupid questions? How many times has he been asked questions that he thinks have no bearing on anything that is troubling him--and how many times have those been asked in the same facility, presumably going into the same chart? As one who has been in this patient's seat too many times, I consider it very harmful to allow such an inept interview to proceed. You are squandering what the mentally ill do not necessarily have, which is a renewable quantity of endurance and patience. After so many times of facing people like this in a mental institution, some of us despair that there is any help. The people to whom we are to turn are functionaries of system before they are people who pay attention to individuals, we conclude. This medical student may be in novel circumstances for her; the patient is not, so step in and show her how to do it. You can model it and be a teacher without jeopardizing the fragile patient. For every mentally ill person, the issue is trust. I know that trust is an issue for students too. The students will probably survive, though, or keep trying when frustrated. Not necessarily so with the mentally ill.
Posted By: Ann Starr
 
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